90.0.2 to 94.0.1 window-update problems
[Edited: Point (1) is now serious. Point (2) can be ignored. I have edited the question title to indicate that it still occurs in version 94.0.1. My latest post in this thread identifies another symptom of the update problem]
I have been automatically updated to 90.0.2 on several machines (most 64-bit Windows 7), but there appear to be problems with the latest version. I can't see evidence that these have already been reported.
1) Window update. When the browser window comes to the fore (top of the z-order), or when resurrecting from a minimized state, it does not redraw the whole window. Usually, half is missing. However, a cursor-move event while over the window triggers a redraw.
2) I have just experienced CAPTCHA issues trying to get into an gov.ie website. Instead of showing me text to enter into the field, it just showed a gray square. However ,the same challenge works OK in Chrome (i.e. it's not a problem with the site itself).
Are these known issues? Is there a way to regress to the previous version?
Gewysig op
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ACProctor said
1) Window update. When the browser window comes to the fore
I haven't heard of this.
Start Firefox using Troubleshoot(Safe) Mode {web link}
A small dialog should appear. Click Start In Troubleshoot(Safe) Mode (not Refresh). Is the problem still there?
2) I have just experienced CAPTCHA issues
Make sure you are not blocking content.
Diagnose Firefox issues using Troubleshoot(Safe) Mode {web link}
A small dialog should appear. Click Start In Troubleshoot(Safe) Mode (not Refresh). Is the problem still there?
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enhanced-tracking-protection-firefox-desktop
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I can confirm that the window-update problem does not occur in safe mode.
Reproducing this is easy (for me): just minimize and restore the Firefox window a couple of times (usually only takes 1 or 2 goes), or do the same with another program so that it obscures the Firefox window (again, 1 or 2 goes needed).
I haven't retried the CAPTCHA problem because the gov.ie site is new, and not entirely working properly. It's also inconvenient to clear my cookies at the moment. [Edit: that site has now removed its CAPTCHA so it looks like it had a problem and it wasn't the fault of Firefox]
Gewysig op
I can confirm that the window-update problem does not occur in safe mode.
Reproducing this is easy (for me): just minimize and restore the Firefox window a couple of times (usually only takes 1 or 2 goes), or do the same with another program so that it obscures the Firefox window (again, 1 or 2 goes needed).
I haven't retried the CAPTCHA problem because that gov.ie site has now removed its CAPTCHA so it looks like it had a problem and it wasn't the fault of Firefox.
When someone comes to look at this, you may find that it doesn't happen on all machines. I have 3 Windows 7 64-bit machines here, all on the latest Firefox, but only one is showing this issue. It is very consistent, and somewhat annoying.
Please feel free to ask me for my settings, or anything else that will pin down the root cause.
On the unit with the problem;
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Sorry, that doesn't look like it copied from the start. Here's the previous bits:
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Name: Firefox Version: 90.0.2 Build ID: 20210721174149 Distribution ID: Update Channel: release User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:90.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/90.0 OS: Windows_NT 6.1 7601 Launcher Process: Enabled Multiprocess Windows: 1/1 Fission Windows: 0/1 Disabled by default Remote Processes: 9 Enterprise Policies: Inactive Google Location Service Key: Found Google Safebrowsing Key: Found Mozilla Location Service Key: Found Safe Mode: false
Crash Reports for the Last 3 Days
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Name: Picture-In-Picture Version: 1.0.0 ID: pictureinpicture@mozilla.org
Name: Reset Search Defaults Version: 2.1.0 ID: reset-search-defaults@mozilla.com
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Name: British English Dictionary (Marco Pinto) Type: dictionary Version: 2.99 Enabled: true ID: marcoagpinto@mail.telepac.pt
Name: Amazon.co.uk Type: extension Version: 1.9 Enabled: true ID: amazon@search.mozilla.org
Name: Amazon.com Type: extension Version: 1.3 Enabled: true ID: amazondotcom@search.mozilla.org
Name: Bing Type: extension Version: 1.3 Enabled: true ID: bing@search.mozilla.org
Name: Chambers (UK) Type: extension Version: 1.0 Enabled: true ID: chambers-en-GB@search.mozilla.org
Name: DuckDuckGo Type: extension Version: 1.1 Enabled: true ID: ddg@search.mozilla.org
Name: eBay Type: extension Version: 1.3 Enabled: true ID: ebay@search.mozilla.org
Name: Google Type: extension Version: 1.1 Enabled: true ID: google@search.mozilla.org
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Use these links to create a new profile. Use this new profile as is. Is the problem still there?
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-run-firefox-when-profile-missing-inaccessible
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_Firefox#Navigating_to_the_profile_folder
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-and-remove-firefox-profiles
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/back-and-restore-information-firefox-profiles
Type about:profiles<enter> in the address bar.
Is there a way to save and restore profiles? I am testing some software at the moment and don't want to risk unexpected changes.
P.S. It still happens in 91.0
Gewysig op
I created a new profile, called Test, and launched it in a separate browser session. The reported problem is identical in that session.
Start your Computer in safe mode with network support. Then start Firefox. Try Secure websites. Is the problem still there?
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https://www.digitalcitizen.life/4-ways-boot-safe-mode-windows-10/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ If the problem goes away with the computer in Safe Mode, the problem is with one of the other programs on the system.
As a test, disable your protection programs.
Sorry, been working hard and so not had time to try this. However, I have noticed some consistency:
Facebook does it a lot. Blogger's post summary page does it less often. Neocities dashboard rarely does it (had to minimize/restore window about 5 times to force it).
However, a simple page that I have under development, currently with just a div frame centered in the window, and displaying a single line of text, seems to do it every time.
Worse still, the suggestion that a mouse-move event over the body of the window causes it to redraw doesn't always work. Sometimes it causes a partial redraw and sometimes it takes a good few movements, but moving the mouse over the browser menus or tab controls always causes a successful redraw.
Not sure if this information is of any help.
Gewysig op
I called for more help.
I have had to switch my default browser as this has become quite serious for me. While trying to conduct transactions on secure pages then I found myself clicking on "ghost buttons": ones that aren't really there but it was not obvious that the page was only half updated. There was a very scary moment when I accidentally clicked on a real button that I absolutely did not want to click on.
As a note for anyone tasked with investigating this, I found that the problem has another very reproducible and annoying symptom: any tooltips (or "hover text") are never dismissed, leading to "ghost tooltips" hanging around until I can force an update.
I am now on 94.0.1 (64-bit) but there has been no change from when I first reported this issue.
Gewysig op