troothteller said

Should I just use Firefox without Java?

Would you please take a look at this thread :

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1127803

I think the posts from both 'the-edmeiser' and 'James' answer
your question .....

Why do Java, Silverlight, Adobe Acrobat and other plugins no longer work? - https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/npapi-plugins

Firefox Releases since 52.0 and later (including 57.0.4 and 58.0) has only allowed the Flash Player Plugin from Adobe to run. If you want to use the Java Plugin then you can use the Firefox 52 ESR as mentioned in bottom of above article. On Windows however you need the 32-bit Firefox 52 ESR to use the NPAPI Java Plugin as the Win64 only allows Flash Player and Silverlight to run like in previous Win64 Firefox Releases.

Even Chrome (since 45 version), Chromium (and Opera) has dropped support of all NPAPI Plugins which includes Java back in September 2015. So basically less reasons for websites to still make use of the NPAPI Java Plugin.

Do you actually use the Java Plugin from Oracle for anything? as it is separate for the JavaScript in Firefox. Mentioning last part as so many people think one needs the Java Plugin for JavaScript in Firefox to work due to the names. http://kb.mozillazine.org/JavaScript_is_not_Java

And since Oracle is depreciating their vulnerable Java Plugin the Java 9 may not have the NPAPI Plugin anymore while Java 8 does.

To all, thank you. I will not bother rolling back to older plugins. My need for asking lies in my being a dissatisfied cable TV customer, having to stream through the PC rather than the TV. I would tend to use another browser for live streaming; or wait until the program airs to stream it in case somebody blocks the live stream. Rarely would I use Firefox to do something like that; but I have used Firefox for streaming a few times. Thanks again. I will use the current version of Firefox I have without messing with it any further.

A website can use Java Web Start to launch a Java application in a standalone window.

A Java Web Start JNLP file is basically a XML file that the server sends as application/x-java-jnlp-file and that is opened by the default application for this MIME type (Java Web Start). Java then handles everything on its own, but there is no longer embedding possible like a plugin offers. Java registers this MIME type when you install the Java program.

cor-el, do you do that through the Java Control Panel? I have an icon for that on the Start Button. Is this where you hit View on the General Tab? Do you do that when you are on a page that needs the Java Plugin? The applications on my computer now do not launch, although I did not open Firefox to check that out.

I read all the above and have a couple of questions.

1. Using Firefox 59 (64 bit) can I or can I not do something to Firefox to access data from a website (e.g. bls.gov) that states "This application is designed to work with Java enabled browsers?

2. If I can use FireFox 59 (64 bit) to access the data on this federal Government site, what exactly must I do to Firefox to make it do so? I need a Betty Crocker cookbook set of instructions as I am not a computer techie but I certainly can download, save, and run/install software.

Thank you.

Barryng1 said

I read all the above and have a couple of questions. 1. Using Firefox 59 (64 bit) can I or can I not do something to Firefox to access data from a website (e.g. bls.gov) that states "This application is designed to work with Java enabled browsers? 2. If I can use FireFox 59 (64 bit) to access the data on this federal Government site, what exactly must I do to Firefox to make it do so? I need a Betty Crocker cookbook set of instructions as I am not a computer techie but I certainly can download, save, and run/install software.

Would you please take a look at this bls.gov article and scroll down to 'One Screen' where it says :

"If your computer does not have Java, use the Create Customized Tables (multiple screens) method described below. "

https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cestips.htm

Having started this thread, I have long given up on Java. Both Firefox and SeaMonkey, which I both have, are Mozilla products. At this time there is no trace of java, except for old installers, ever having been installed on this system. So, I will go without it. Since February 9 of this year I have been recovering this system from a crash. Luckily I did not damage my hard drive; but I had to have a new clean install of my Windows 7 64-Bit system. I will not look for any more trouble than I just had.

Hi, yes if not need it for a specific purpose or a program that requires it you have done the right thing. If need it can always download it java.com .

If this issue is Solved Please Mark the Question that Answered it so others can find it. Thank You.

troothteller said

Both Firefox and SeaMonkey, which I both have, are Mozilla products.

The suite has not been a Mozilla product since Mozilla discontinued the suite twelve years ago with last version being Mozilla suite 1.7.13 released on April 21, 2006. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Application_Suite

The SeaMonkey community has been working on it since. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaMonkey

I really don't need to know that. Put something constructive up here.

Well you said you were pretty much done in your post after thread was bumped by Barryng1, so what more do you need to know then?.

I was just informing you about SeaMonkey as you thought it was a product that Mozilla made.

I forgot all about this thread until yesterday.

Barryng1 said

I read all the above and have a couple of questions. 1. Using Firefox 59 (64 bit) can I or can I not do something to Firefox to access data from a website (e.g. bls.gov) that states "This application is designed to work with Java enabled browsers? 2. If I can use FireFox 59 (64 bit) to access the data on this federal Government site, what exactly must I do to Firefox to make it do so? I need a Betty Crocker cookbook set of instructions as I am not a computer techie but I certainly can download, save, and run/install software.

'Just noticed that you had already started your own thread - maybe you'd like to copy and paste this post there :

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1213803

I don't like getting these notices all of a sudden. Somebody should have started a new thread.

troothteller said

I don't like getting these notices all of a sudden. Somebody should have started a new thread.

When you start a thread, anybody with similar problems, can post in that thread.

If you don't want ro receive these notifications :

There's a 'Get/Stop' email updates button in the menu on the right side of the thread : click on 'Question Tools'.

Also : You should see a link in the emails to stop sending these notifications.

troothteller said

I really don't need to know that. Put something constructive up here.

I appreciate the answers to my question but I am disappointed that this forum, which is apparently Mozilla's only available technical support, offers unprofessional responses like above. I understand Firefox is free but I would much rather pay a reasonable price for the software (or a tech support call) and be able to get good tech support without seeing the type of response above.

@ Barryng1 :

Would you please continue in your own thread :

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1213803