How does FF Quantum currently handle cookies?
I’ve noticed a difference in the Quantum release of FF 57. If cookies are not enabled some websites will not display content. However if they are enabled the content is shown. Google, previously, seemed to be the company that provided cookie handling to all websites that wished to obtain information on the interests of visitors. Now, after enabling cookies, FF does not indicate that any cookies have been placed on the hard drive, even though cookies have been enabled.
If anyone has an answer to this seeming discrepancy please describe what is taking place. Why is it necessary to enable cookies to view content when there is no indication that cookies are being used anymore? Are we being misled by what appears to be no attempt to deposit cookies on our hard drives, when in fact something of this sort is taking place?
To prove this to your satisfaction visit a website that requires cookies, and enable them to see content. Then check “Accept cookies from websites”. Afterwards uncheck the box and look to see whether cookies have been placed by checking the “Show Cookies…” box. If your system responds the same it will indicate no cookies have been placed, even though you accepted them so content would display.
Additionally the many negative responses to FF Quantum are shared by me. However I’m willing to endure until the issues are fixed if someone in the upper reaches of FF development can assure FF users that this will happen. All my Add-On’s (Extensions) are gone. In particular FEBE by Chuck Baker, which is an excellent backup, is gone with nothing to use instead.
This makes using FF Quantum so dangerous that no new Add-On’s can be tried, since the one backup that worked to reverse bad Add-On results being tried was FEBE and it is now termed “Unsupported”. FF has literally killed their new Quantum release. Who specifically is responsible for letting this happen? It does appear this is an organizational problem, more than a development problem. There need to be personnel replacements at the management level or all FF users are going to have to find other non-Mozilla browsers since Quantum has effectively killed any future development at this point.
Please note that the reason I’m enduring Quantum at this point is the Bookmark Manager & Viewer. It is the ONLY thing FF has released that attempts to work on the failure of FF to search for folders. However it is TOO SLOW and has many deficits that make organizing bookmarks for those of us who have a lot of them not feasible. It could cover the same capabilities that Deduplicator provided. However Deduplicator was only able to be tried because FEBE still existed. Deduplicator did not have any way to manually select what was to be removed and FEBE was able to reverse what would have been a disastrous destruction of many needed Bookmarks.
I have many other issues of a negative nature concerning Quantum, but these will do for now.
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MozillaFirefoxNewbie said
To prove this to your satisfaction visit a website that requires cookies, and enable them to see content. Then check “Accept cookies from websites”. Afterwards uncheck the box and look to see whether cookies have been placed by checking the “Show Cookies…” box. If your system responds the same it will indicate no cookies have been placed, even though you accepted them so content would display.
Do you use regular windows or private windows? In pages loaded in private windows, you won't see the cookies listed in Firefox's dialogs; the private window cookie jar is retained just until the last private window is closed.
If a site tells you that you must allow cookies, usually it will set at least one cookie. However, it might also want to put data into local storage, which Firefox blocks if you have disabled cookies. Before leaving the page, you can check the Storage Inspector, which is part of Developer Tools. More in this article:
Many thanks for your reply, jscher2000
I took a look at Storage_Inspector (SI). It seems many of my concerns are being worked on for a future release of Firefox where SI will be available directly.
As of now I really would like to abandon this thread, since I've reworked my thoughts on the issue of privacy protection. If you respond to this new support question, please note my main concerns are the potential of elitist financial interests to override ANY Firefox privacy protections. I will want to know what is, and what is not possible, since the crooks always seem to be one step ahead of those of us seeking honest outcomes. However I've outlined therein the problems for privacy protection, as I perceive them. I also will mention what apparently my reading of SI in its future iteration may disclose.
I hope that SI will soon be made readily available, and not like some other extensions, such as many users hoped for ability to search for individual folders that never has taken place. Bookmark Manager and Viewer has potential to do this, but the complaints about this are many and no indication so far that these are being addressed.
The lack of availability of a backup of Bookmarks that FEBE had provided is a major stumbling block on usage of many extensions. I hope this does not find its way into SI that will also make it unusable when it becomes generally available. What I'm referring to here is the possibility that SI will possibly be able to delete all websites that do not respect privacy policy with no way to recover afterwards.
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It is not an extension, but it is part of the builtin developer tools.
You can find the Storage Inspector in the Web Developer menu drop-down list or use the Ctrl+F9 keyboard shortcut.
- "3-bar" menu button or Tools -> Web Developer
My current issues with Firefox are the number of Extensions termed Legacy. These were critical extensions, in that in addition to functionality they allowed recovery if the Extension did not react as expected. In this case I'm referring to Chuck Baker's FEBE backup. How could Firefox management have killed that extension instead of working with him to make it compatible with Quantum? I'll allow that I'm very limited on my understanding of the inner workings of software, but that seems to have been a really unwise move, as have a number of the very effective other extensions I used that are now termed "Legacy Extensions".
Further, I keep looking for replacements since the availability of Quantum and none are becoming available. "Bookmark Manager and Viewer" was a hoped for replacement for "Go Parent Folder" and "Show Parent Folder". It is impossibly slow and difficult to use in comparison, so it can't be considered a replacement. I'm required to first find the title of a Bookmark. then place it in the "Fuzzy" search box. The wait can be considerable, and appears to be a function of how long the Name is in the Bookmark's Properties window. I don't find any of this to be acceptable compared to what I used previously.
Further, BM&V only remains available as long as nothing is picked outside its window. That makes the search for the Bookmark difficult when trying to add something that is in the same category in that folder.
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