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Thunderbird 91.1 does not save password unless in safe mode

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Upgraded from a very old Eudora environment in 2 steps to TB 91.1. Windows 10. All works fine, but the passwordmanager will not save my email-password during normal operation, though the 'save pw' checkbox is there. It's a clean installation, no add-ons. If I start TB in safe (troubleshoot-) mode, all works fine. I don't seem to be able to find out the reason of this change in behaviour, would be happy with any suggestions.

Upgraded from a very old Eudora environment in 2 steps to TB 91.1. Windows 10. All works fine, but the passwordmanager will not save my email-password during normal operation, though the 'save pw' checkbox is there. It's a clean installation, no add-ons. If I start TB in safe (troubleshoot-) mode, all works fine. I don't seem to be able to find out the reason of this change in behaviour, would be happy with any suggestions.

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Who is the mail provider, and what are your authentication method settings?

The best way to start with a clean slate is to create a new profile, add an account, and test the password performance. Help/More Troubleshooting, about:profiles, to create and launch profiles. Your current profile is unaffected and can be launched as before. If the new profile works properly, data can be transferred from the other profile.

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Safe mode applies a number of features besides disabling add-ons. The most common are a default layout ('Reset toolbars & controls' to fix) and disabled hardware acceleration (under Preferences/General/Indexing). I would guess that the layout is broken, and the password checkbox is not being read. This probably was a result of re-using a profile used in an older version of TB, which itself was based on a Eudora conversion. Launch in safe mode, 'Reset toolbars & controls', 'Make changes & restart', and see if that fixes it.

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Thx for your reply. I restarted in safe mode, in the dialogbox that pops up I checked "Reset toolbars & Controls" and chose "Make changes and restart". Unfortunately, apart from the windows being resized, this made no changes to the behaviour. It's peculiar: When I enter the mail password and leave the "save pw" unchecked, all is well and my mail is fetched. When I do check the "save pw" however, the status bar says "Connected to ..<provider>" but my mail is *not* retrieved from the server and the pw is not saved. In save mode, the password is remembered correctly and file "logins.json" is created/used in the profile folder. I am not familiar with Thunderbird (yet) - is there a clean settings- of preferences-file that I could copy from the default profile, without losing all my folders and addressbook-entries?

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Who is the mail provider, and what are your authentication method settings?

The best way to start with a clean slate is to create a new profile, add an account, and test the password performance. Help/More Troubleshooting, about:profiles, to create and launch profiles. Your current profile is unaffected and can be launched as before. If the new profile works properly, data can be transferred from the other profile.

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Mail provider is Ziggo.nl. Incoming server pop.ziggo.nl, TLS/SSL, port 995. I created a new profile a few times, swapped between POP and IMAP but it doesn't really help. In safe mode, Preferences>Saved_passwords shows a few lines of saved login info. In normal mode, this list is empty. Also, an attempt to create a master password fails with a non-explanatory message. Looks like TB has problems reading/writing the password/logins-file in normal mode, but why?

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If you have a security app, e.g. Avast, Kaspersky, that includes a password manager, that could interfere with TB saving passwords. If the manager were injected via an extension or plugin, that would explain why there's no problem in safe mode.

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I have no securitiy app whatsoever. Running TaskManager, I noticed that running TB in normal mode I have 2 TB-processes active, while it appears that when running in safe mode I have only one. Does that make sense?

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I turned on the Error Console and noticed errors like "NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Couldn't decrypt string". Looking for that message in the forum I found an advise to delete files cert8.db, cert9.db, key3.db, key4.db, logins.json and secmod.db. That solved my problem. Thanks very much for your assistance. Gert Huber

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I have 2 TB processes active, so I don't think it matters as far as your problem.

Deleting the .db files is a standard remedy for password issues, since TB recreates them on restart. But since you tried a new profile, with default, empty db files, and the problem remained, I didn't suggest that remedy.

In current TB, the relevant files are key4.db, cert9.db, logins.json and pkcs11.txt; the others are obsolete.

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ghuber1 said

Thank you very much for solution. Got the same problem with 96.03 (Windows 10 x64). After deleting cert*.db, key*.db, logins.json and secmod.db in profile "Save passwords" works.