I WANT to enter my email password every session
I DON'T want my email account password to be saved anywhere in Thunderbird and I DO want to have to enter the password each time I start up Thunderbird anew. However, my password is being retained. I've deleted the password entry from Settings & Saved Passwords but seem to have to do that every time before I close down. Where/how can I ensure I have to enter my hotmail password each time I start up Thunderbird please?
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I used to have to enter my email password every time I opened Thunderbird. That's my preferred MO but it stopped a while back, presumably after an update?
No, presumably it stopped at the time you changed the authentication method for your account from 'Normal Password' to 'Oauth2', as required by Microsoft now.
There are no lines starting either imap:// or smtp:// underneath Saved Logins, just the 1 oauth://
The oauth:// line is the authentication token.
Is perhaps the Primary password the equivalent of what I used to have to enter to access Thunderbird?
No, the Primary password is protecting the passwords Thunderbird has remembered. It is not simply falling off a coconut tree, you'll have to deliberately set one. Check the linked support article for details.
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Your Authentication method is OAuth2. That means Thunderbird does not remember your actual account password, but an authentication token. The token expires after some time, and you'll have to re-authenticate. When you delete the authentication token, you'll get prompted to re-authenticate every time Thunderbird starts. To protect any passwords (and OAuth2 tokens) Thunderbird has remembered, you can set a Primary password. https://support.mozilla.org/kb/protect-your-thunderbird-passwords-primary-password
If there are still any lines starting with imap://, or smtp:// underneath Saved Passwords, you can safely delete them. They are not used anymore with OAuth2 authentication.
Thank you. Where do I delete the authentication token please? Originally, I used to have to enter my email password every time I opened Thunderbird. That's my preferred MO but it stopped a while back, presumably after an update? Is perhaps the Primary password the equivalent of what I used to have to enter to access Thunderbird? There are no lines starting either imap:// or smtp:// underneath Saved Logins, just the 1 oauth:// Thanks again.
Wybrane rozwiązanie
I used to have to enter my email password every time I opened Thunderbird. That's my preferred MO but it stopped a while back, presumably after an update?
No, presumably it stopped at the time you changed the authentication method for your account from 'Normal Password' to 'Oauth2', as required by Microsoft now.
There are no lines starting either imap:// or smtp:// underneath Saved Logins, just the 1 oauth://
The oauth:// line is the authentication token.
Is perhaps the Primary password the equivalent of what I used to have to enter to access Thunderbird?
No, the Primary password is protecting the passwords Thunderbird has remembered. It is not simply falling off a coconut tree, you'll have to deliberately set one. Check the linked support article for details.
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No, presumably it stopped at the time you changed the authentication method for your account from 'Normal Password' to 'Oauth2', as required by Microsoft now.
Oh I see. I didn't ever change from 'Normal Password' to 'Oauth22 consciously or actively. It seemed to happen spuriously. Presumably that change was enforced by Microsoft.
Primary password understood, coconuts notwithstanding.
Thanks for your help.
When your problem has been fixed can you mark your topic as 'Resolved' please? Thank you.
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